Back in Vegas and it feels… meh? Yea, that’s a good description right now. Anyways, Drake tells MTV that he wasn’t dissing Pac with that line on Fear. But rather pointing out that he was too young to fully feel his impact at the time of his passing.
A lot of people also sort of don’t understand the meaning of that line. It’s not necessarily that I don’t love West Coast hip-hop or that I don’t love ‘Pac now that I’m 22, but that line was just said to show how new I am to hip-hop. And like I said, I was 9 when that happened, so it didn’t really affect me. But that song in general was just one of those things that took awhile to finish because it was an opportunity to say a lot of the things on my mind. That always feels good as a rapper, when you can get your thoughts out.
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This was common knowledge. Anybody who was hating or not understanding the meaning of the line just chose not to so they could have something else negative to say about Drake.
“Fear” might be one of his best songs he ever made. I think it’s up there with his Goapele remake of “Closer To My Dreams”.
..thats exactly how i took the verse when i heard it on this track..from a kid being the same age (21/22), u have to realize that at the time of 2pac’s death we were still little kids, so his death did not have that much revelance to us at that point in time. But Hov on the other hand, is more of the iconic rapper of our generation who has had more influence on our lives as adolesence.So if he were to pass, then yea..maybe a tear or two would shed for a man that we’ve witnessed get his shine in life.
niggas is just findin more reasons to hate more on drizzy…STOP HATIN mothafukkas!
maybe i’m just older, but if PAC didn’t touch your life and jigga did, then i feel sorry for you…jigga is just glitz and glamour, PAC was real, fought for the streets, social activist, and was more than an artist.
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@ sargeant slaughter
don’t forget Pac was a wannabe “thug” who got his ass whooped several times because he tried to be hard. Also he was confused, delusional and contradictory. But hey, which rapper isn’t right?
get off that “REAL” shit! Pac was a great rapper but he was a image and mouth as well.
why write essays about it? if you didn’t get the line to begin with you are definitely slow. song wasn’t even great anyway. drake needs to get back to jocking phonte’s flow asap
homo is homo. Gay Z death be nothing important. Its sad that fuckaz with no knowledge grab the mic. Kids should not talk about grown people stuff.
@Vid….damn, how do you live with all that hate? Does it hurt?
Summary: Drake is on Jay’s nuts…didnt Pac die the same year Reasonable Doubt was released?
all the ppl talkin bout ppl hatin on Drake are on Drake’s nuts..
u guys are more offended by the hate than Drake is
Vid is a gangsta, but no
Ikrskb24……..just cause Drake was 9 when Reasonable Doubt came out doesn’t mean he can’t be a Hov fan…Hov does have 11 #1 albums there bud….
uSpLaCerS you need to get your facts straight. Whether his lyrics were an act or not, his words had a much deeper meaning that had an affect on the big picture of things. All of Jigga’s shit is about him. Sometimes you can relate to it and sometimes you can’t (but people like it anyway).
real thugs get their asses whooped. when ‘Pac was in jail, he couldn’t effect the world the way he could when he was out of jail. therefore he was smart enough to not do anything to get his ass thrown back in (up until the time of his death). His work ethic is admirable when recognized by anybody in any profession and he didn’t do it in the name of money like Jay-Z. I’m not saying Tupac was a better businessman than Jigga because obviously that isn’t the case. But you know what? Oprah is rich too. Look at the people she influences and people who treat her like a god. Weak-minded people. It’s like an adult playing teeball against little kids. Tupac took on the most hard-headed people in the world and tried to make a change. Tupac >>> Jay-Z when it comes to heart, effort, and purpose. Jigga gave $1 mill to the people in NO when Katrina hit and he knows he was wrong for not taking an active role. Some of you might think this is speculation, but others, like me, know that he would have done everything in his power to get over there and take care of the suffering people.
As far as I’m concerned, the “wannabe” thug stops being wannabe when you hang out in the hood with real gang bangers and need a gun for protection. His insight and empathy made him a voice that people living in poverty could identify with. Nas still makes music with a much deeper purpose than Jay-Z and in my opinion he will be better until that changes.
Possibly more to come later… I have a test I should be studying for.
Sargent Slaughter…your logic is just silly. Different generations have different icons and idols. That’s just how it works. 2pac was great…but if you are older, you probably were able to see Pac when he was alive and be a FAN, anticipating album releases, standing in line to go get the album etc. During Pac’s career, (1992-1996), I was between 4-8 years old. When I was older, I’ve actually had the joy of seeing a new Jay-Z album materialize, hear the new singles as they drop and experience the event of him dropping a new album. I never was able to do that with Pac’s music. My older brother who died a few years ago said Pac was his favorite rapper and I learned about Pac through him. He left me CDs and stuff. But I was only able to listen and appreciate him from that level…but not as a fan in the moment.
Living in moments as a hip hop fan are really significant. Just a thought.
if Pac was still alive Jigga wouldn’t have a career….but hes dead.
im not hatin on drake or that line, i actually appreciate the honesty. that line is hot. im still on the fence about him.i dont really see whats so special about him.
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It irks me when people say that.
“If so and so was alive, ______ wouldn’t be rapping.”
Nah, they probably would.
i hate wen rappers explain controversial lines like this
Jon Anderson – completey agree with you in every way…
Mike Dreams – i understand where you’re coming from and i agree, you can’t appreciate an artist the same way if you weren’t born or too young to live it…but that’s what i’m saying, anybody who started to listen to hip hop after the pac era missed out on music with a meaning, such as pac, rakim, krs, public enemy, nwa, etc..music that makes you think and grow as a man instead of music that makes you wanna buy chains and fly kicks…as hip hop became commercialized, its all about money, hoes, and who got the club bumpin…jay-z is talented, dont get me wrong, and a great great businessman, but he got the power to change the world, or urban america at least, and what has he done at 40 years of age? nothing but build his own brand…brainwashing kids it’s cool to spend hard earned money on rocawear instead of investing in other ways..in a way, he is almost exploiting his own people…sure he goes to charity events here and there, but that’s just for image…he doesnt carry a message except “i’m better than you, and richer than you.”…that is why i would not shed a tear when he passes…i feel sorry for young’ns that dont understand what i’m talking about.
My thing is he even said before the verse, “Don’t take this the wrong way”. Which I still thought it was a crazy line. But, he didn’t want it to be taken in a different light. So, I can understand that. Me, myself is a fan of Pac’s music cuz it inspired me to do what I love which is make music and look at things a bit different than what they are. My favorite album is, “Me Against The World”. I like nearly every album he put out when he “was” alive. But “Me Against The World”, touched me more than any album he put out, real talk.
I wish I had a chance to me Mr. Shakur but I didn’t. So I shall never make him & Jay-Z equivalent to each other cuz they aren’ the same. I like Jay-Z, yes. But 2PAc was the better ARTIST and was for a cause. Which when I listen to Jay-Z I hear tha struggle (”Some How Some Way”, “This Can’t Be Life”) yes but at times the records that are about him out weights the meaningful, substantial records than what shows or display.
i didnt say he wouldn’t be rapping, i said he wouldnt have a career
People are always looking for a way to get their feelings hurt. I knew what he meant when I heard the line. It’s pretty simple to understand…unless you yourself are simple.
I understood the Pac/Jay line…and I’m only 21…but, what Drake just said basically did it for me…
“that line was just said to show how new I am to hip hop.”
While I agree with Mike Dreams, because I too was too young to interpret Hip Hop like I do now, if you want to be an emcee, you gotta know your history. Maybe its just me, but if I was an artist on my way to greatness, and I say how “new” I am to the music, I’m gonna get a lot of backlash for the heads who actually care about the art form. You gotta earn your stripes and come into the game like you know the b**** in & out. It goes to show why Drake get so much hate, because he displays himself as a “newbie” that was handed the game to him.
whoever took that line as a Pac diss is fuckin stupid!! like Drake said he was 9 when Pac died.. what da fucc else he gotta say..when yall was 9 u kno u didnt give a fucc about what rapper died.
damn do he really gotta dumb it down…..if thats the case yall should stay far away from Lupe’s music…u might get a headache!!
I can understand that Sargent Slaughter. I feel you. But don’t count new music out man. Just because there is people talking about chains and fly kicks, there are still substance based rappers out here. We might have missed out on experiencing Pac, but there are still rappers we do get to experience who are still bringing substance (Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, J. Cole, etc). Every generation will have their lyricists and every generation will have their commercialized, money-hungry, no talent hacks. Now Jay-Z certainly doesn’t fall in that category, because I think he is the most talented rappers who ever touched the mic (Yes, even over Rakim. Blasphemy right? Hey, what can ya do? LOL.) I think he’s rode the fence well. There is nothing wrong with talking about having material things as long as there is a balance.
Didn’t he say like, “Don’t Take this the wrong way but:” during that last little (auto tune) riff he did at the end of the chorus?
Like Chilllllll.
Oh wait, Ill Son said the same thing. Oh well.
@ 2 Cents..did u c in the post i made, “Drake cant be a Hov fan”??
i was explaining the fact that Pac’s career ended when Jay’s started, which pretty much explains why Drake is more of a Hov fan than a Pac fan…he apparently grew up listenin to Hov
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Has Hip-Hop become that dumb to where he had to explain that line?
You can’t even compare Hov to Pac, they made totally different types of music, came from totally different areas, its a straight pointless comparison. jus enjoy both of em, and dont hold your breath on any one else that motivational and talented to come around soon. Two of the greatest to pick up a mic.
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(except the part abotu jay over ra……i dont know about taht one)
People over exaggerate lines too much. I knew he didn’t diss Pac cause it didn’t even sound like a diss. How someone could think that is beyond me. All he said was say that he didn’t cry when Pac died, but he probably will when Hov does.
The fact that Drake had to even explain the line proves that so many rap-fans are whiny-ass gossip-whoring bitches.
Pac died in 1996. Drake wasn’t old enough to appreciate Pac’s music when he was ALIVE. Drake is only 22. Do you think a 9 year old can REALLY appreciate Tupac at that time?