Now I normally don’t post more than one RAoF in a day, but come on! While I was flying back to Vegas last night I caught this bullshit on the Satellite TV. I seriously don’t get how folks can actually watch this douche bag on a daily basis. This particular clip (above) revolves around his thoughts on Michael Jackson. And after the jump he debates with Dr. Marc Lamont Hill.
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well he has a point….
as much disdain as i have for duke, he does have a point when it comes to the media exploiting his memorial for ratings. on the flip, him talking about it makes him a hypocrite since he’s essentially doing the same damn thing.
Will someone off this motherfucker already? I mean damn, he must have maximum security everywhere he goes for that to have not happened already. Come on 50, Put some truth to all that gun talk!
I agree with everything he said.
Who cares if he has a point or not? He’s said far enough dumb shit to be cut any slack whatsoever.
is it me or does this idiot take an L every show. Dr. Hill was slowly killin his points and his response is to get louder and obnoxious so dude can’t finish his statements.
FOX=Bill O’Reilly=FAILLLLLL
I went in already ready to tear Riley to shreds but by the end I completely agreed with him..for probably the first time. But it’s not like it gives him a clean slate.
i do not like this guy….at all….but, hes got some truth goin on here. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton did flip the race card, as they usually do. And along with that, why does Al Sharpton take this just as any other media situation, and use it to catapult himself into the media spotlight. A black man fell of a scooter today…..PRESS CONFERENCE!!!! INTERVIEWS!!!! GOSPEL!!!…..gtfoh with that shit. He is just as bad, if not almost worse then KKK Bill O’Reiley. Real talk. 50 can put the same gun talkin truth you as for in his direction also. Ughhh, i cant stand that man either.
And this time, Billy Boy actually did drop a few valid points. Its just his way of getting those points across that are vaguely suspect.
Usually I hate Bill O’Reilly, but the dude does have some valid points. I’m not totally agreeing with him, but I’m not totally disagreeing with him either. To be honest, I’ve had some of the same thoughts myself about the whole situation
Just watched the second video though, and I agree with some of the Dr.’s points as well. How come every time someone goes on that show they have to try and yell to get their points across?
Someone get billo a wheel chair. He doesnt have a leg to stand on.
it wasnt as bad as i thought but i still think the place will be a better place without him here spreading his ignorant racist bigot hate speech
how is bill oreilly gonna try to speak on behalf of black people about MJs “blackness”???? ROFL oh the irony
oh yea, o’reilly has good argument “tactics”. never really the facts but he knows how to “win” one by always cutting the guest off and overspeaking.
the thing that gets me on this is the fact that he continuously tries to press allegations and rumors off as pure fact. and the sad thing, his readers will buy into it because he says it enough.
Bill has a point and lately shake has been on crack with his opinions/predictions.Nobody gives a fuck tho but its his site
Theres a special place in hell for Bill O’Reilly
O’Reilly has a point
The media who drug MJ through the mud are treating him like a legend. As long as there’s money to be made… it doesn’t matter how but if you’re saying “Michael Jackson” right now, someone will be paying attention.
MJ never taught anyone how to “love each other”… what BS. And of course our buddies Al and Jesse are all up in this, getting some shine.
Sly fox , stop listening to the idiot box !!!!!!!
everyone in here who is like “O’ Reilly has a point”….WTF?
I hate when people automatically hate everything O’Reilly has to say just because of his reputation and his disdain for mainstream shitty hiphop which I agree with by the way. The man obviously has a point here when he talks about the media exploiting this funeral and how no one really stood by him when he was getting judged on by the entire world and all of a sudden they come out to get some camera shine time? Fuck outta here.
AS much as I dislike this dude, Bill has a valid point. The race/Al Shapton rant to the side-switching of the media Bill is actually on point. Sorry & I’m black if that matters.
When Woody Allen finally breathes his last breath, would the fact that he molested and married his step daughter yrs back be brought to the forefront of his eulogy !! Would that be brought to the masses to tarnish his professional legacy as a Director?
He had a skin disease, he didn’t just bleach his skin for anything. Horribly misinformed.
Everything he said was true, alot of you need to youtube ‘katt williams – michael jackson’ and listen to his rant on MJ.
didn’t watch the debate portion, but I for one am completely fed up with the media coverage of Michael Jackson. Yeah, I know he was never convicted of a crime, but my instincts all tell me something was definitely wrong with the man. It doesn’t make him guilty necessarily, but if there was some way to wager on such a thing, I would put up nearly anything he was guilty of inappropriate contact with children. Just look at the description of the first plaintiff’s testimony, a case which Jackson quickly settled out of court for an absurd amount of money link can be found @ http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0625091jackson1.html No wealthy, innocent man would shell out that kind of dough to avoid a trial of he was truly innocent, there must have been some pretty solid evidence for him to want to duck trial and not vindicate his name.
The only dumbasses I see are the ones agreeing that this should be posted under RAoF, idiots…
Everything he said down to the last second was fact, and if you don’t like it–you must hate white people. (LMFAO had to pull the “MJ’s dead race card”)
How old are you, Shake? Like 15? Grow the fuck up kiddies…
When are we going to get the “Shake’s mom gobbles cock edition”?
yea i just don’t get it. what is with the MJ is a Black icon. he should be an American Icon. if a white man would die with the same following and people called him a White icon, that would be a racist statement. He’s an American first! this race shit is so played out.
/agree derrik
THANK YOU!!
Take your fucking race cards and shove it up your fucking asses people, and then just sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up ’til the next “black icon” dies, fuck…and the man literally–LITERALLY WAS NOT BLACK WHEN HE DIED. The man’s skin color was whiter than man, that makes him white–even if he does have African American roots…
cmon people u dont call winterfresh doublemint just because it tasted like it once, gg
Curtis75Black, you dumb motherfucker.
A) Woody Allen didn’t molest anybody, and it’s hilarious that you would say that when the fucking post is about making stupid shit up and then passing it off as fact.
B) He wasn’t actually her stepfather since he was never married to her mom. Which you would have to be to be her stepfather.
If you want I’ll show you a biography and we can read it together, it’ll give a lesson on having some factual basis for your argument.
Aside from that, I’m about as fed up with Sharpton as I am with O’reilly. Michael was an american icon, not just a black one.
I hate this fucker but I agree with most of his talking points on this. Grown ass men should not be sleeping in the same bed with kids that are not their own. How the fuck can you argue against that?! Seriously. MJ admitted to doing just that, but now that he’s dead we’re supposed to remember him as a saint. Yeah right!
no doubt riles is a dick, but he’s not totally wrong on this issue. it’s just that he really shouldn’t be talking ill of someone who not only just died, but is beloved for his music. dude just looks to rile people up, and clearly its working. im just gonna ignore papa bear posts all together from now on, unless he invites cam and dash back on someday
its obviously bill, and anyone who says he has a point, has no clue about MJ. do research and try and understand the character of MJ before you judge and actually start to believe the bs thats coming out of this asshats mouth. bill o’reilly is trying to discredit the greatest black musician to ever live on pure bs. if you really want to know about MJ go read about his whole life. if not go take real analysis from people who either have or know him. a perfect example is to go look for the juan epstein podcast episode with paul mooney. paul mooney sheds light on the whole child molestation case and mj sleeping with kids.
kYo is right with everything he said. Some people are just so fucking retarded. Did you guys know he had a kid live with him- not sleep- because they were going to die from cancer? It seems kinda random to throw out, but if you only know what the media presents, you don’t know shit, honestly.
Bill.. Michael Joseph Jackson, used a surrogate mother, he had vitilgo no bleaching, and if some people say your racist for not liking him.. their entitled to their opinion so are those who don’t like he did not do anythign wrong with those children it was proven and they even came out and admitted such..everyone who says Bill has a point is a dumbass
@cjae
vitilgo does not cover your entire body like michael jacksons skin…look it up…and im not saying he didnt have it but he did in fact bleach himself
Finally someone says everything that is right for once shit.
He can Just simply eat a dick!!
Dude. Obama needs to like, make these fucking media whores from talking about him, at all. Good or Bad.
The only thing I saw correct about Fuck’Riley’s arguement was that media exploits anything for ratings. Man, he needs to go read that blog entry by Phonte.
Dr. Hill owned his ass.
Black Man (Bleached or Not, Nigga was still Black) + American Icon = BLACK American Icon.
Stupid ass Riley. I’d spit in the dudes face.
Ok. and to everyone that’s all, “He did in fact bleach his skin.”
Would you want to be one of the biggest performers, ever, with big ass blotches and patches on your skin? I ain’t think so. So it was to kill two birds with one stone. Along with Joe Jackson & Brothers criticizing you from your youngness, hell, I’d have bleached the shit too.
Dude was an American Icon as well.
Actually, you ALL need to read Phote’s blog post.
hate bill but he is 100% correct on this
what he’s saying about the media I agree with tho.
Dr. Lamont totally ripped “O’Really” a new one!
O’reilly has a point, but it sucks and makes no sense what so ever.
He’s putting Michael down because he “bleached” his skin and he has white kids, which all of a sudden makes him a bad person.
Fuck off, Billy Boy!!
None of this has anything to do with you, you’re far too ignorant for this subject.
Stupid ass.
Got dang.
So everybody’s racism comes out.
I’m talking about the random ma’fucka’s that “oh you dont see this or think this about michael then you’re an idiot”. Bitch plz. Papa Bear is a dick with Herpes on it and y’all keep going back to get fucked listening to him on a daily basis. Or whenever. The man is vile and is FOX’s ace in the hole for nothing but RATINGS because don’t nobody know anybody else on that channel. C’mon. He’s notorious for talking over people and being loud and cutting ppl off and spitting out the term “Um-American” more than the Government does. God I’ll be glad when the day comes that somebody hands that guy his last check so he can get the hell off the air. But I knew it. I KNEW it was going to be a matter of time before he went after Mike. The only point he made was about the flip floppin’ ass media. At least his racists and bigoted ass stayed consistent. If anyone in his eyes is not the perfect American citizen, then he does his best to tear them down.
This would be an example of somebody being racists on here.
Who is this hot sauce on mayonnaise, trailer trash diggin cat Relentless904 on here posting about race cards and this dude can’t even get some ass without calling his own sister?
See, THATS a race card if i ever was to pull one. Thats the same thing as a O’Reilly move. And Bill can’t say “Oh you’re making this racial” when his talking around racism and using it when he wants to. It’s all crazy. Hope he dies crazy. I know I’m not supposed to say that but he irks the hell out of me. Hes not the bulldog of the American people on what’s Patriotic or not. Ppl treat him like everything he said he’s GOLD, like it’s written in a book or something. And when did Bill start speaking for the Black community? SMH…and he can go at Jesse [another argument] but Rev. Al is a preacher…let that man PREACH at a MEMORIAL for his friend. Don’t scrutinize everything because it doesn’t make sense to you. Or dismiss it. On more thing – so Bill & his friends can be adulterers, thieves and bootleggers and he’s cool with that but he tears down a man who was ACQUITTED because he was different? And spending “hundreds of millions of dollars on himself” but is in the Guinness Book for the celebrity giving to the most charities. These assholes kill me.
Whatever. I’m not losing sleep over this ma’fucka. And as a disclaimer before I get ‘bombs’ thrown at, Relentless, you;re post seems to have the most target arrows at it. Again, just an example. Don’t get personal. So start E-Thuggin’ if you want to.
yes, you guys all sound so articulate in presenting your argument against bill o’reilly… only on a hip hop blog… sigh
the only thing correct he said was at the end and that seemed to win all of you over. That must be how his show works. Throws a bunch of bullshit around until he reaches one valid point and the audience goes “Well hes right about that.”
The man called Jackson selfish for spending millions of dollars on himself and making “We Are The World” O’Reilly either was ignorant to or more likely intentionally left out the fact that Jackson has contributed to charity more than any pop star in history, even being in the Guinnes World Records for it. Then as shake said he tries to uses rumors in his arguments as if they are fact. Saying jackson wanted to be among white people because he bleached his skin. How fucking stupid was that to say? once again he was either ignorant to or completely left out the fact that jackson suffered from vitiligo and his treatment turned his skin that color. Once again the dumbass contradicts himself by blasting the media for convicting mike even though he had been acquitted and he does the same exact thing. or maybe thats him being consistent.
but as soon as he gets to the part about the media you all go “well hes right about that”
and i wont even talk about the debate. I know high schoolers who would embarrass this man in a debate.
id like to see stephen colbert put a funny spin on this
uhhh bill oreily is completely right.
O’reilly doesn’t ‘have a point’. While I agree with him insinuating that the same people who accused and shunned him for being a child molester are now the same people who are acting heartbroken over his death, I feel like O’reilly does the same amount of flip-flopping on a regular basis. I mean, come on — the dude talks about how easily the media becomes tainted, but apparently fails to realize that he IS PART OF the media! He’s the same guy who thinks that the media should be silenced because of their left-wing radicalism, but then spouts complete bullshit right-wing radicalism on every show he does. The man is clearly psychotic, and his views are jaded and severely biased.
People should not give him this much attention. Shake, thanks for putting this up, but O’Reilly thrives off people talking shit on him. If everyone ignored him he’d go away. I wish people realized that.
niggas need to accept that all the media exposure will be going on until the final autopsy AND all the trials are over. plus, they need it for ratings. besides, Ol’ Papa Bear doesn’t like anyone anyways, so fuck what the motherfucker says about anything. yes, he makes valid points, but in a disrespectful way. i have NEVER seen him say anything respectful. NASSSSSSS!!!! the thing that got me way dissapointed was when O’Reilly made a statement about MJ’s “Heal the World” when MJ would spend millions of dollars on himself… WTF?! other than Bill Gates, he was the most charitable person in the entertainment business. more than $300,000,000 given to charaties. obviously he’s going to spend as much money as he want’s on himself and his children cause he earned it. there’s not ONE other celebrity that donated as much as MJ. O’Reilly probably doesn’t donate shit, so he shouldn’t be saying anything.
This O’reilley guy doesnt seem to be keeping track of his own arguments; at 1:20 he makes a comment on Michael Jackson criminality. Then at 2.20 he said he’s not making any comments on his criminality. WTF!?!?!?!? Jay Smooth was right
The first video i completely agreed with O’Reilly which i rarely do. but Marc Lamont Hill brought up very valid points. Especially the Jerry Falwell statement that O’Reilly danced around.
Why even post this fuckn nonsense for people to see. its what this asshole wants!!!!
Yo Shake, im on this website numerous times a day, i love the work you and Meka do….. BUT… your totally wrong here man… TO SAY THAT JACKSON GOT BLACK AND WHITES TO LOVE EACH OTHER IS A FUCKING DISGRACE TO EVERY PERSON(BLACK OR WHITE) WHO FOUGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. WETHER YOU WANT TO BITCH OVER HIM BEING BLACK OR WHITE… THE DUDE TOUCHED LITTLE KIDS DICKS AND PAID THE FAMILIES OFF TO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT… EVEN PEDOFILES GET MURDERED IN JAIL NO ONE RESPECTS THEM BECAUSR THEY ARE SCUM… END OF DISCUSSION
oreilly is right. if you can’t see that then yall are ignorant and stupid.
its as simple as that.
I agree with the whole media thing. I understand many people wanted to see the memorial service, but the media coverage of the entire thing from right after he died until the memorial was pretty rediculous if you ask me. I don’t think any family in the world would want that if their son, daughter, brother, or sister died, even if they were as famous as Michael Jackson. I personally feel its just something you don’t fuck around with no matter who it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aznP79VexsY
I agree the media should leave the guy the hell alone and let him rest in peace but in the second video o’reily needs to get his facts straight. the man didn’t bleach his skin and the doctor is right…there is no blackness meter here. If micheal wanted to have white kids that’s his decesion. but i mean it really doesn’t matter at the end of the day because who the hell watches fox news anyway? oreiliy only makes headlines when he says something that people think is “racist.” he is not a racist i don’t believe but a fucking bonehead.
fukn fox….. itll rot ur brain
i like how he “forgets” to mention the BILLIONS of dollars MJ gave to charity (more than Oprah), his influence on pop culture/the music industry, and the fact that (In the words of phonte) he aint touch those bitch ass kids.
YES the media needs to stop talking about him, and YES bill O Reilly seriously needs someone to permanently seal his mouth, before he gets himself shot for being a dumbass.
@derrik you must be white with your “racist shit is played out” statement
is racist shit played out when the penalties for crack cocaine vs. powered cocaine are highly disproportionate?
is racist shit played out when 20% of our population is minority and 75% of our prison population is minority. oh i know, “minorities commit more crimes” right???
it’s easy to say racism shit is played out when YOU AREN’T and NEVER WILL BE a victim of the institutionalized racism that still permeates this system on a daily basis
Being black in this country is STILL looked at as negative whether you are sick of hearing about it or not so it’s a big deal for someone to be successful and black because there are so many obstacles in place that try to prevent that
These white people that complain about the overuse of the race card, at the end of the day, are still white, SO WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY COMPLAINING ABOUT?!?!?!!
When someone saysyou`re pulling hte race card,it is usually someone white.And they say it to try to take power out of an debate about race. Stop using that phrase. It makes no sense.
@Dj iLL One – you are 100% right, white people are afraid of the race discussion because since they have always been the oppressors in this country it makes them look bad whenever race is discussed and they don’t wanna look bad, white people hate feeling guilty, especially when they have every reason to
The only thing that I agree with this faggot is that last part about the media kicking dirt at Michael then now they’re like “oh we love you so” after he’s dead… I had the same argument with my boy about that… I can’t respect that shit man. The media is some shit. That being said, O’Reilly’s still a faggot for that first shit that he said. Read Phonte’s blog on myspace on that shit. I can’t say it better than he did and saying that he was selfish and all that? Well Mr. Philanthropist O’Reilly. Make it rain in the foundations then… Be the angel that Michael Jackson wasn’t.
bill said why is it that mj is an african american icon when he has white kids…
so ur tellin me that if u have children of a different race that u wont b considered as ur race’s icon??? cuz that dont make no sense at all
1. I agree completely with Meka’s statement.
2. By bill o’s logic concerning Mike’s kids, Angelina Jolie, Madonna, and every other celebrity adopting African children must be ashamed to be white.
3. Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are garbage for once again injecting and making themselves the focal points of a situation they by and large had nothing to do with.
4. Stephen King, Bobby Rush and Hazel Dukes’s comments are equally inappropriate (Jackson was legally acquitted of the charges and therefore should be viewed as innocent in the eyes of the government and their officials i.e. Congress; but the idea that Rep. King is a racist for calling Mike a pedophile is insane at best and race baiting at worst) as they are valid opinions. Opinions don’t need facts to support them, that’s why they’re opinions. Furthermore, that Bobby Rush is 100% pure unfiltered shit, the last time I saw him on TV he was calling everyone who opposed Roland Burris (the douche who bought Obama’s senate seat) a racist.
5. At the end of the day, bill’o has absolutely no credibility discussing any topic, ever, because quite simply, to quote Jay-Z “you a constant contradiction”
@ Derrik and any one agreeing with his statement
I think you all missed the key remark Dr Lamont said.
“quintessentially he[michael jackson] is a American Icon”..
meaning he is ultimately an american icon regardless of what anyone says about him, however, that does not stray from the fact that he is “black”. Therefore I don’t think its wrong for anyone to call him a Black Icon or whatever–regardless of a black or white person is saying it. Hell, Babe Ruth is considered a white icon and I’m sure no black person would argue or be mad that anyone would say it.
On the flip side, I do agree we shouldn’t have to label something “black”, just to show ownership to that object. And I think thats what get people, because they dont get how possessive and proud black folks are of their own…
I do agree with Dj iLL statement, that most people say “pulling the race card” just to smite power out of an argument.
there is only one way u become a pedofile…and until i hear that happened 2 MJ its not true in my book…of course he issues and his own demons but that doesnt take away from all the good he has done..
“JUST DO IT LIVE!!FUCK IT!!”
@ dub. wow i feel bad how its white peoples fault that black people kill eachother over nothing every single day. yes this may be very racist but yes “minorities” do commit more crimes. sorry its a fact.
i dont see nickelback beefin with u2 sayin he gonna kill his cracka ass when he sees him on the street. but i do see every rapper out there sayin how they gonna kill another mother fucker cuz he looked at him wrong.
i cant wait til aliens come here so we can forget about the color of our skins and kill aliens together as HUMAN BEINGS
The only valid point o’reilly had was how peter king was labeled a racist for calling him a pedophile. otherwise everything he said was contradictory and towards the end racial. Bill O’reilly never was black therefore he cant understand how a man with white skin (who was black) is a black american icon when he cant fucking see past the color of his skin !!!
First Video O’reilly had a point in the first video but took a L in the second video. >>>>
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Thats my opinion do!
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He has a full point, im not an O’Reilly fan (him as a person) but everything he said was true….and if u dont like jackson its not bein Racist…thats the dumbest thing ive fuckin heard.
i totally agree with the top video didnt watch the second one mj was not no american hero at one time he was an icon but key words at one time… before he died he was washed up… like dude said he wasnt no mlk jr. people need to stop riding his death looking for some kinda shine and making it out to be more then it is he wasnt the greatest thing america had ever seen …
i totally agree with the top video didnt watch the second one mj was not no american hero at one time he was an icon but key words at one time… before he died he was washed up… like dude said he wasnt no mlk jr. people need to stop riding his death looking for some kinda shine and making it out to be more then it is